From: ericf@central.co.nz (Eric Flesch) Subject: Move Galaxies with your Eyes ! Date: 1996/08/25 Message-ID: <321fa0e7.18105061@news.nn.iconz.co.nz>#1/1 organization: Internet Company of New Zealand newsgroups: sci.physics Quantum Mechanics teaches us that, in John Wheeler's words, "No elementary phenomenon is a phenomenon until it is a registered (observed) phenomenon". A notable example of this is light, which can be polarized, conditional that the polarization is not realized until the photon impacts somewhere. Wheeler's delayed-choice experiment shows us that, as Wheeler says, "we decide what the photon *shall have done* after it has *already* done it. He extends the delayed-choice experiment to light from a distant quasar being lensed around an interposed galaxy. Wheeler comments that we can, in principle, diffract photons from this quasar so that the arriving photons *will have travelled* around both sides of the interposed galaxy. Therefore, the photon *will have done* what we select -- if we look at it with our eyes, it will have come from just one side of the galaxy, but if we diffract it, it will have travelled on both sides. Today's GR practitioners claim that the photon gravitates, that is, tugs at suns. Therefore, since we can, at the whim of the moment, decide whether some of the above quasar's photons have travelled on both sides of the interposed galaxy, or on one side only, we can therefore differentially apply gravitational forces *retroactively* to the interposed galaxy. Pull on galaxies with your eyes! Travel backwards in time and move galaxies! What poppycock! QM is pretty well established. The problem with the above scenario is easily resolved if physicists realize that the rule that "no elementary phenomenon is a phenomenon until it is a registered (observed) phenomenon" means that forces cannot be applied by non-registered phenomena. This means photons-in-flight do not gravitate, nor are they events as defined by the Minkowski metric. If a photon isn't there until it impinges, then it certainly will not be gravitating in mid-flight either. Physicists have been trying to eat their cake and have it too, for too long. GR was fashioned by Einstein, who was a "reality" physicist who never accepted the Copenhagen interpretation. The GR concept of photons which gravitate is incompatible with the QM view of photons which are undefinable until they impinge. And yet today's physicists profess belief in both. You can't do it, guys. Time to choose. Throw your hat in the ring of your choice. And as you know, you can't fight QM. Eric